Varför är sannyasrörelsen så rädda för Giten?

Giten, gultröja, namaste, closeup

 

Läs också nedan Not the Master in Your Own Home Town,

 ett utdrag från Gitens bok on Jesus Kristus

 

Hej Giten,

Läste det du nu skrev på FB, om GANGA HOFFMANs förtal. Jag vet att du tidigare skrivit att de förtalar dig, och jag begriper inte varför. Enligt det jag begriper så bottnar det mesta av människans destruktivitet ur rädslor.

 Det enda du gör är att du är en ”andlig lärare”, inte en ”andlig ledare”. Kan det vara så simpelt att Ganga ser Dig Giten som en konkurrent? Någon som drar potentiella kunder från dem själva? Eller tycker de att du har ”fel sanning” som strider eller konkurrerar med deras sanning? Varför skulle Ganga och sannyasorganisationen vara rädda för dig?

Obegripligt!

 Jag själv känner inombords att andlighet & medialitet inte är något som skall blanda in girighet i. Naturligvis behöver de som gör extraordinära insattser få kompensation, med det är inte girighet. Olika andliga lärare förmedlar oftast samma budskap/sanning med olika förklaringar, olika aspekter. Men kärnan de vill förmedla är dessamma. Det är ju som fingret som pekar på månen, budskapet är månen, inte fingret som pekar på månen. Vi väljer alla intuativt vilket finger som får oss att se på månen. Många fingrar försöker få oss att se på månen, men en majoriteten väljer att enbart se på fingret, och gärna diskutera det. Om nu Ganga är en av fingrarna, varför försöker hon då slå bort andra fingrar?


Jag lyssnar ofta på dina satsanger från youtube. Tack Giten! Tack att du är så generös och gör dessa åtkomlig för så många. Jag känner igen så mycket av det du berättar, det främst från en bok som jag läst flertal gånger, som berört mig mest: ”Den sanna revolutionen : en berättelse om ett uppvaknande” av Nukunu Larsen. Han är idag också en andlig lärare, en av mina närmaste vänner var flitig på hans (svin-)dyra kurser. Inget för mig.


Jag ska någon dag boka tid med dig, vet inte när, men jag kommer återkomma då det fungerar för mig.


Tills dess… ha en så underbar sommar

Ilkka Masko

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Not the Master

 in Your Own Home Town

An excerpt from the book “Jesus Christ: The Way, The Truth and the Life

The book is a compilation of lectures during Satsang with Giten on Jesus Christ

Matthew 13

AND WHEN HE WAS COME INTO HIS OWN COUNTRY, HE TAUGHT THEM IN THEIR SYNAGOGUE, INSOMUCH THAT THEY WERE ASTONISHED AND SAID, WHENCE HATH THIS MAN THIS WISDOM AND THESE MIGHTY WORKS?

IS NOT THIS THE CARPENTER’S SON? IS NOT HIS MOTHER CALLED MARY? AND HIS BRETHREN, AND HIS SISTERS, ARE THEY NOT ALL WITH US? WHENCE THEN HATH THIS MAN ALL THESE THINGS? AND THEY WERE OFFENDED IN HIM.

People were not so offended with Buddha or Lao Tzu as people were offended with Jesus.

With Buddha, he is so far away that you either do not understand him, or people could understand that he was the essence of the Upanishads.

With Jesus, people were offended, because he was just like them. They could not understand him. The said: “We know him! Isn’t he the carpenter’s son!”.

Buddha was also the son of a king, while Jesus was a carpenter’s son.

People could not understand. From where comes his wisdom?

They were offended, their ego was offended.

BUT JESUS SAID TO THEM, A PROPHET IS NOT WITHOUT HONOUR,

SAVE IN HIS OWN COUNTRY, AND IN HIS OWN HOUSE.

It has happened so many times that the people who are closest will always misunderstand.

We could expect the contrary, that the people of Jesu’s village would understand him first. The pepople of Jesu’s house, his family, his relatives, would understand him first.

But that does not happen.

A deep insight into the human ego is needed to understand it.

With those that are closest to you, it is very difficult to believe that they had gone beyond and above you.

If somebody else, who is not close to you, goes beyond you. the competetive ego does not arise.

But if your brother goes. and you are left behind, your ego is hurt.

You feel defeated, a failure. Then the easiest way is to deny that he has gone beyond.

Jesus offended his own village, family and relatives.

They knew Jesus’ birth date, they knew his father, his mother, his brothers and sisters.

So Jesus can not be forgive.

Jesus is a quality of love, but to be able to see this quality, you have to drop your ego.

The presence, the quality of Jesus offends, because you will feel that you have failed.

His very being, his presence, offends you.

With Jesus there are tow qualities: either you follow him or you deny him, you become an enemy.

When Jesus was crucified, many felt a relief.

Very rare people could follow Jesus, because they were ready to drop their egos.

And even those that followed Jesus, hesitated and had doubts before they could say yes, before they can trust.

Jesus is a total yes to life, a total trust in life.

– Swami Dhyan Giten

Giten on The Society

Giten, foto, gul tröja, sittande på gren
SWAMI DHYAN GITEN
ON THE SOCIETY
“Despite 2000 years of evolution
 in modern times, we have still not
 managed to develop the
 intelligence to create a society
 that knows what love is. Our
 society is still not a civilization, it
 is still primitive and barbaric.”
– Swami Dhyan Giten
“The most important thing that
 is happening in the world right
 now  is the emerging of the new
 man.
 
With the new man, a great
 revolution will bring the soul
in. Man will not just be a mind, a
 psychological being, he will be a
 spiritual being.
 
This new consciousness, this new
 being, is the most important
 thing, which is happening in the
 world today. But the old man will
be against the emerging of the
 new man, the old man will be
 against this new consciousness.
 
The new man is a matter of Life
 and death, it is a question of the
 survival of the whole earth. It is
 matter of survival of
 consciousness, of survival of life
 itself.
 
The old man has become utterly
 destructive. The old man is
 preparing for a global suicide
 right now. Rather than allowing
 the new man, the old man would
 rather destroy the whole earth,
 destroying life itself.
 
The old destructive man is
 preparing right now for a third
 world war. The global economical
 and political elite and the war
 industrial complex in the U.S.,
 which runs the foreign policy of
 the U.S, is right now promoting
 for a third world war.”
– Swami Dhyan Giten
“Wars are an outdated way to try
 to solve conflicts, which are
 unacceptable in the 21st century.
 Instead of trying to conquer
 yourself, wars are an unconscious
 way to try to conquer life. Wars 
are an unconscious way to try to
 conquer death, which is the basic
 fear in the West.”
 
– Swami Dhyan Giten
“Sweden is not one of the
 countries that will walk in the
 front line in developing the new
 man, the new consciousness for
the 21st century.
 
 
Sweden consists of separate
 minds that do not allow each
 other to grow, and whose focus
 are to mantain status quo, which
 creates a country without joy.”
 
– Swami Dhyan Giten
 

“There is a very simple

 relationship between increased

 socioeconomic rifts in the society

 and increased violence,

criminality, war, increased lack of

 trust between people, health

 problems and social exclusion

 – but it seems to be very difficult

 for people to understand this

 simple relationship.”

— Swami Dhyan Giten

“The climate change is the
 greatest challenge for humanity.
The current climate change is an
 outer mirror of our inner
 consciousness. 
 
It is an outer mirror of our
 attitude to try to conquer nature,
 instead of being in harmony with
 nature, but in the end the part
 can never conquer the whole.”
 
– Swami Dhyan Giten

 
“It is not many things that modern psychology agrees upon, but all the different approaches of psychology agrees on one thing: that people in groups become more stupid. Individually people are more intelligent, because they have to take their own responsibility, but in a group they do not have to take the same responsibility.
The two basic power strategies to try to manipulate and gain control over another person are: silencing and attacking. Silencing means to not listen to, to exclude or ignore and not respect a person. Attack can both mean to attack a person directly or to try to discredit a person through lies, to ridicule a person or by spreading malicious rumours.
All organizations are more or less dysfunctional. In a dysfunctional group, the members of the group play three different roles: agressor, denier and victim. The agressor is the role that attack and ridicule people, the denier never knows what is going on, there is “nobody at home”, and the victim is the resultat of these two roles.
It is always easier to follow a group without awareness, than to follow your own heart, to trust your own intelligence, love, truth, silence and creativity.”
 
– Swami Dhyan Giten
Presence – Working from Within:
The Psychology of Being