Giten attacked by the Swedish sannyas movement – Brage Norin, Swedish professor in physics, calls the attack on Giten for “evil”

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GITEN WAS ATTACKED BY THE SWEDISH SANNYAS MOVEMENT
– THE SWEDISH PROFESSOR IN THEORETICAL PHYSICS, BRAGE NORIN, CALLED THE ATTACK ON GITEN FOR “EVIL”

Giten reported the attack to the Swedish police, and a investigation was instigated. This investigation has now named 20 sannyasins, who was responsible for the attack.

Among the names of the attackers are several persons, who also was directly or indirectly responsible for creating the situation for the murder of the enlightened mystic Osho. Several of these people are part of the power group, who ran the now closed the Osho-center in Stockholm. A sannyasin, who attend satsang with Giten commented: “Jivan Kavya (the bussiness consultant Jivan Wells) (who worked closely with the notorious Sheela in USA) has always been a leader of the sannyas movement in Stockholm, but no one wanted her as a leader”.

None of these 20 people has taken any responsible for their action.

A judge will now evaluate if these sannyasins will be called to the police for questioning and trial.

“Continue to work despite the hate that is directed at you. The more hate you awake – the more dangerous you are viewed by the evil. It is a good grade.”

– Brage Norin, professor in theoretical physics, internationally recognzed researcher in climate change, representative to The Swedish Energy Commission in China, Consultant at The Swedish think tank Skogsa

“These people project their ideas, attitudes and judgements towards me without any awareness and intelligence, because they belong to a spiritual cult. But their projections has really more to do with themselves than with me. They also associate me with people, who I do not know and have nothing to do with.
Osho was treated in this way by the mainstream media and by the establishment, so in a way it is a compliment to be treated in this way. Truth has always been met with aggressiveness and violence, rather than with love and intelligence.”

– Swami Dhyan Giten

More than 20 years ago, one of my mentors in life said two things, that I have had reason to remember during the years that I have worked with people. He said: “Spiritual Masters teach on many different levels at the same time. Some people take what they can, and some take something deeper” and “Spiritual organizations also tend to get stuck in ideas of how it should be.”

― Swami Dhyan Giten, Presence – Working from Within. The Psychology of Being

“It is not many things that modern psychology agrees upon, but all the different approaches of psychology agrees on one thing: that people in groups become more stupid. Individually people are more intelligent, because they have to take their own responsibility, but in a group they do not have to take the same responsibility.
The two basic power strategies to try to manipulate and gain control over another person are: silencing and attacking. Silencing means to not listen to, to exclude or ignore and not respect a person. Attack can both mean to attack a person directly or to try to discredit a person through lies, to ridicule a person or by spreading malicious rumours.
All organizations are more or less dysfunctional. In a dysfunctional group, the members of the group play three different roles: agressor, denier and victim. The agressor is the role that attack and ridicule people, the denier never knows what is going on, there is “no body at home”, and the victim is the resultat of these two roles.
It is always easier to follow a group without awareness, than to follow your own heart, to trust your own intelligence, love, truth, silence and creativity.”

– Swami Dhyan Giten Presence – Working from Within:
The Psychology of Being

“A toxic personality is always looking at things in a negative way. The whole world view of the toxic personality is depressing, sad. The toxic personality hides in beautiful faces. A perfectionist is a toxic personality. You cannot say that something is wrong in a perfectionist, but the whole idea of being a perfectionist is to find errors, mistakes, loopholes. It is a trick. You cannot find any fault with a man who looks for perfection, but in fact that is not his goal; perfection is a device. He wants to look at loopholes, mistakes, errors, anything that is missing, and this is the best way – to keep a goal of perfection so that he can compare them with the ideal and always condemn.
This toxic personality always thinks of that which is not and never looks at that which is, so discontent becomes natural. A toxic personality poisons his own being; not only that – he drips poison.
And they are everywhere. These people tend to become teachers, educationalists, professors, vice-chancellors, saints, bishops, popes; they tend to become these things because then they can condemn. They are even ready to sacrifice everything if they are just allowed the joy of condemning others. They are everywhere, hiding in many ways. And they are always doing things for your good, for your own good, so you are defenceless against them. Their heritage is real, big. They have dominated the whole history.
These people immediately become dominators. Their very ideology helps them to dominate because they can become condemnators. And they talk in rational terms. Rationalism is also part of the T-personality. They are very argumentative, very difficult to defeat them in argumentation. They are never reasonable, but they are always rational.

– Osho

International book site Goodreads with 9 million users quote Swami Dhyan Giten on Spiritual Orgainzations

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INTERNATIONAL BOOK SITE GOODREADS
 WITH 9 MILLION USERS QUOTES GOODREADS
AUTHOR SWAMI DHYAN GITEN
ON SPIRITUAL ORGANIZATIONS
“A prerequisite for development is to know when it is time to hold on, and when it is time to let go of the old and take a new step. A prerequisite for all development is also a certain aloneness. The other side of creativity is a willingness to be alone.

Some time ago, I felt that I experienced more limitations, than possibilities in a spiritual organization, which I had belonged to for a long time. It became clear for me that I was prepared to expand, and take a new step in my spiritual growth. To be spiritual does not mean to belong to a spiritual group. I felt that I had grown out of the kindergarten, and my inner tree was bearing fruit. Too many large trees can not grow in a narrow area. This was a lesson to stand on my own feet; it was a lesson for me to live to my own life, to live my own truth, without following anybody else. I do not belong to any spiritual group or tradition, I am only interested to explore what it means to live with open eyes. This lesson developed an expanded my inner being.
A friend came with a good advice during this period: “Go ahead without looking back, let others do their thing, that is their choice and freedom – you do need their limitation.”
More than 20 years ago, one of my mentors in life said two things, that I have had reason to remember during the years that I have worked with people. He said: “Spiritual Masters teach on many different levels at the same time. Some people take what they can, and some take something deeper” and “Spiritual organizations also tend to get stuck in ideas of how it should be.”
 

Giten attacked by the cult that managed to murder their own master

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Giten attacked by the cult that managed to murder their own
master

– and they are still going strong

 
“It is not many things that modern psychology agress upon, but all the different approaches of psychology agrees on one thing: that people in groups become more stupid. Individually people are more intelligent, because they have to take their own responsibility, but in a group they do not have to take the same responsibility.
The two basic power strategies to try to manipulate and gain control over another person are: silencing and attacking. Silencing means to not listen to, to exclude or ignore and not respect a person. Attack can both mean to attack a person directly or to try to discredit a person through lies, to ridicule a person or by spreading malicious rumours.
All organizations are more or less dysfunctional. In a dysfunctional group, the members of the group play three different roles: agressor, denier and victim. The agressor is the role that attack and ridicule people, the denier never knows what is going on, there is “no body at home”, and the victim is the resultat of these two roles.
It is always easier to follow a group without awareness, than to follow your own heart, to trust your own intelligence, love, truth, silence and creativity.”
 
– Swami Dhyan Giten
Presence – Working from Within.
The Psychology of Being
 
OSHO NEWS
– THE BEHAVIOR OF A CULT
 
Punya, the editor of Osho News, received the newsletter of spiritual teacher and best-selling author Swami Dhyan Giten on Friday, and on Saturday she sent the following comment to Giten: this guy is really going over the top. Punya. This would mean that she found Giten too extreme.
After a mail conversation with Punya a couple of years ago, Giten told Punya that he did not appreciate her unprofessional behaviour. Punya answered this complaint against her by saying that then Osho News would not review Giten’s latest book, which they had planned.
Giten told this story to the professional psychotherapists, which he supervise and educate, and they just laughed at this as an example of lack of professionality and an example of the behaviour of a cult.
Giten sent Punya a mail about her latest stupid comment, but she has not answered. This latest comment is another example of unprofessional behaviour and an example of the behaviour of a cult.
The mail-adress of Osho News are now removed from Giten’s mailing list.
Sadly, this kind of judgemental people in sannyas has caused great damage to sannyas during the years, and a lot of intelligent people has left sannyas because of that.
Giten is not associated with the organization around Osho, and he has told Osho News that if they do not solve this situation with intelligence, he requests that they remove all his books from the Osho News site as he do not want to be associated with stupid and judgemental behaviour of a cult.
Punya answers:
Punya wrote an answer to Giten and the explanation was that she made a mistake: she meant to send the comment about Giten and his work to somebody else, but she made a mistake and sent it direcly to Giten.
She also said that this comment was because Giten has published a photo book about his work.
Giten has requested that all his book are removed from Osho News as he does not want to be associated with this behaviour of a cult.
Otherwise the response was the usual denying and attacking Giten from the Osho movement, which is the usual strategies in a cult and dysfunctional group. One sannyasin on the Facebook group “Satsang” tried to insult Giten by writing the following: It sounds like Giten has a lot of unresolved anger in him, and a greed for power which reminds me of Paul Lowe… It sounds unintelligent and inconsistent. Like little children trying to convince their mom that they are innocent by pointing the finger elsewhere than themselves… Some “spiritual teacher” :-/
This was posted on the Facebook group “Sannyas”, and the same Punya had clicked that she liked this insult on Giten, which was not surprising.